DigiSub DT2 (virtualization) - Meeting #6
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Hi!
Thanks for your participation to the meeting on Friday. I am sending you the minutes and TODOs (in green below).
Minutes of the meeting:
1) We welcomed Jean-Baptiste Flamant from Smile who joined the group.
2) We discussed about CIP and Yocto and concluded the following:
· Yocto provides a reference set of tools to build Linux distributions for embedded critical systems
· Two options are identified for the core distribution of the project: building a specific distribution using Yocto tools or reusing the core distribution from CIP (https://www.cip-project.org/) which relies on Yocto è The decision is to start with Yocto for prototyping the MVP and to engage a discussion with CIP in parallel in order to assess the possibility of reusing CIP.
è I have updated the roadmap slides accordingly.
3) Inventory of contributions:
· RTE and Alliander proposed contributions that are summarized in the following table (added to the roadmap document)
· National Grid indicated possibility to contribute to specifications
· WindRiver will provide feedback on possible contributions within one month
4) Next meeting to be scheduled early May.
Based on the outcomes of the meeting, the progress report in now the following (the main pending task is to finalize the inventory of contributions) :
TODOs:
- @All: Suggestions for project names to be sent by Friday April 10th.
- @All: Please update the inventory of contributions for your company if need be.
- @Lucian: schedule a meeting early May.
- @ All: please check by next meeting if your company wants to be part of the copyright footer as collaborative work.
For the next meeting, I propose to focus on :
- Updating and finalizing “Priorities and contributions” for the MVP
- Planning for a final review of the roadmap document and agreeing on footers for publication
Please continue adding you contributions directly to the roadmap in the “Working documents for next meeting”: https://rtefrance-my.sharepoint.com/:f:/g/personal/lucian_balea_rte-france_com/EqtmXdzq_g5IjOUqnpeW_OcBSliQdsCu0vytBZ5yDSisaA
Any comment/suggestion regarding the above is welcome.
Best regards,
Lucian
-----Rendez-vous d'origine-----
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Envoyé : jeudi 3 mars 2005 21:17
À : BALEA Lucian; Daniel Lazaro; GUIBOUT Christian; WATARE Aurelien; Thomas Rudolph;
akhilesh.chandrakar@...; Dalvi Siddhesh; Vijaylal S V; Groningen, Laurent van; Charton, Thomas; Chen, Linwei; Jansen, Sander; Miller, Michael (GE Renewable Energy); Kanabar, Mital (GE Renewable
Energy); Moeller, Jan; Karine Mourier; Dioury, Karim; Seiler, Glenn;
jean-baptiste.flamant@...
Cc : Troost, HJ (René); romain.naour@...; Betz, Thierry
Objet : DigiSub DT2 (virtualization) - Meeting #6
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Hi!
Thanks for your participation to the meeting on Friday. I am sending you the minutes and TODOs (in green below).
Minutes of the meeting:
1) We welcomed Jean-Baptiste Flamant from Smile who joined the group.
2) We discussed about CIP and Yocto and concluded the following:
· Yocto provides a reference set of tools to build Linux distributions for embedded critical systems
· Two options are identified for the core distribution of the project: building a specific distribution using Yocto tools or reusing the core distribution from CIP (https://www.cip-project.org/) which relies on Yocto è The decision is to start with Yocto for prototyping the MVP and to engage a discussion with CIP in parallel in order to assess the possibility of reusing CIP.
è I have updated the roadmap slides accordingly.
3) Inventory of contributions:
· RTE and Alliander proposed contributions that are summarized in the following table (added to the roadmap document)
· National Grid indicated possibility to contribute to specifications
· WindRiver will provide feedback on possible contributions within one month
4) Next meeting to be scheduled early May.
Based on the outcomes of the meeting, the progress report in now the following (the main pending task is to finalize the inventory of contributions) :
TODOs:
- @All: Suggestions for project names to be sent by Friday April 10th.
- @All: Please update the inventory of contributions for your company if need be.
- @Lucian: schedule a meeting early May.
- @ All: please check by next meeting if your company wants to be part of the copyright footer as collaborative work.
For the next meeting, I propose to focus on :
- Updating and finalizing “Priorities and contributions” for the MVP
- Planning for a final review of the roadmap document and agreeing on footers for publication
Please continue adding you contributions directly to the roadmap in the “Working documents for next meeting”: https://rtefrance-my.sharepoint.com/:f:/g/personal/lucian_balea_rte-france_com/EqtmXdzq_g5IjOUqnpeW_OcBSliQdsCu0vytBZ5yDSisaA
Any comment/suggestion regarding the above is welcome.
Best regards,
Lucian
-----Rendez-vous d'origine-----
De : BALEA Lucian
Envoyé : jeudi 3 mars 2005 21:17
À : BALEA Lucian; Daniel Lazaro; GUIBOUT Christian; WATARE Aurelien; Thomas Rudolph; akhilesh.chandrakar@...; Dalvi Siddhesh; Vijaylal S V; Groningen, Laurent van; Charton, Thomas; Chen, Linwei; Jansen, Sander; Miller, Michael (GE Renewable
Energy); Kanabar, Mital (GE Renewable Energy); Moeller, Jan; Karine Mourier; Dioury, Karim; Seiler, Glenn; jean-baptiste.flamant@...
Cc : Troost, HJ (René); romain.naour@...; Betz, Thierry
Objet : DigiSub DT2 (virtualization) - Meeting #6
Date : vendredi 3 avril 2020 16:30-18:00 (UTC+01:00) Bruxelles, Copenhague, Madrid, Paris.
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Hi!
In order to get prepared for the meeting tomorrow, I would like to remind the main topics:
- Are Yocto and CIP exclusive options or compatible ones? è input from WindRiver?
- Make an inventory of pre-existing code that is already open source or would be contributed to the project è Anything else to be proposed at this stage besides the technical stack that has been identified?
- List and discuss the proposed individual contributions to the open source project è See table attached (also in the shared folder)
Best regards,
Lucian
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Envoyé : lundi 30 mars 2020 12:24
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Objet : [digital-substation-virt] DigiSub DT2 (virtualization) - Meeting #6
Hi!
I hope that everybody is doing well.
Our next meeting is scheduled on Friday.
I have added a worksheet into the shared folder (also attached for convenience) in order to start gathering views on the two next tasks of our group:
6) Make an inventory of pre-existing code that is already open source or would be contributed to the project
7) List and discuss the proposed individual contributions to the open source project
Please add your input. Thanks.
Best regards,
Lucian
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digital-substation-virt@... <digital-substation-virt@...>
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Envoyé : mardi 17 mars 2020 19:09
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Cc : digital-substation-virt@...
Objet : Re: [digital-substation-virt] DigiSub DT2 (virtualization) - Meeting #5
Hi!
Thanks for your participation to the meeting yesterday. I am sending you the minutes below (actions in green):
1) We introduced Romain Naour from Smile who just joined the group.
2) There is consensus that the project on virtualization should have a distinct technical governance and branding from the project on 61850 configuration.
3) It is also preferred to find a project name that does not make a too strong reference to the power grid substation since the solution might be relevant also to other industry segments in a later stage. è @All: please feel free to send suggestions for the name of the project.
4) Concerning the technological option, the group concluded the following (added to the roadmap document):
- Hardware/chip architecture options:
o x86 is retained as the reference chip architecture for the MVP
o The project should nevertheless consider that the platform should support ARM architecture in a second stage
- Hypervisor options:
o Linux / PREEMPT_RT is retained as the reference for the MVP
o Other options are discarded for the time being: Xenomai seems to have little industrial support, ACRN is not mature enough to date though promising (thus it should be kept in the radar for a later stage)
- Linux distribution:
o Yocto seems to be a reference choice for embedded critical systems
o CIP (https://www.cip-project.org/) is also proposed as a serious alternative? as it is maintained longer and includes a RT version
o Are Yocto and CIP exclusive options or compatible ones? è Glenn proposed to check with the LF.
- Platform and application orchestration:
o Kubernetes seems to be the reference choice for container orchestration è To be added to the roadmap (done).
5) Tests will be key to confirm the design of the solution. It is agreed to add to the project’s activities an item on “specifying the test procedures needed to assess the fulfillment of the requirements” è Done
I have updated the progress status for the design team:
We have almost completed the high level principles, initial functional scope and functional requirement references.
We have also made significant progress regarding the technological options.
It also seems to me that the milestones to reach the MVP are partly there: we have listed the project activities on slide 9 and we have 3 examples of substations to be considered. This already gives some guidance.
For next meeting, I would like to focus the discussion on items 6 and 7:
6) Make an inventory of pre-existing code that is already open source or would be contributed to the project
7) List and discuss the proposed individual contributions to the open source project
I will propose a template to collect views asap.
Please continue adding you contributions directly to the roadmap in the “Working documents for next meeting”: https://rtefrance-my.sharepoint.com/:f:/g/personal/lucian_balea_rte-france_com/EqtmXdzq_g5IjOUqnpeW_OcBSliQdsCu0vytBZ5yDSisaA
Any comment/suggestion regarding the above is welcome.
Best regards,
Lucian
-----Rendez-vous d'origine-----
De : BALEA Lucian
Envoyé : jeudi 3 mars 2005 21:17
À : BALEA Lucian; Daniel Lazaro; GUIBOUT Christian; WATARE Aurelien; Thomas Rudolph;
akhilesh.chandrakar@...; Dalvi Siddhesh; Vijaylal S V; Groningen, Laurent van; Charton, Thomas; Chen, Linwei; Jansen, Sander; Miller, Michael (GE Renewable Energy); Kanabar, Mital (GE Renewable
Energy); Moeller, Jan; Karine Mourier; Dioury, Karim; Seiler, Glenn; Troost, HJ (René);
romain.naour@...
Objet : DigiSub DT2 (virtualization) - Meeting #5
Date : lundi 16 mars 2020 16:30-18:00 (UTC+01:00) Bruxelles, Copenhague, Madrid, Paris.
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Hi!
I hope that everybody is doing well.
Our next meeting is scheduled on Friday.
I have added a worksheet into the shared folder (also attached for convenience) in order to start gathering views on the two next tasks of our group:
6) Make an inventory of pre-existing code that is already open source or would be contributed to the project
7) List and discuss the proposed individual contributions to the open source project
Please add your input. Thanks.
Best regards,
Lucian
De : digital-substation-virt@... <digital-substation-virt@...>
De la part de Lucian Balea via Lists.Lfenergy.Org
Envoyé : mardi 17 mars 2020 19:09
À : digital-substation-virt@...
Cc : digital-substation-virt@...
Objet : Re: [digital-substation-virt] DigiSub DT2 (virtualization) - Meeting #5
Hi!
Thanks for your participation to the meeting yesterday. I am sending you the minutes below (actions in green):
1) We introduced Romain Naour from Smile who just joined the group.
2) There is consensus that the project on virtualization should have a distinct technical governance and branding from the project on 61850 configuration.
3) It is also preferred to find a project name that does not make a too strong reference to the power grid substation since the solution might be relevant also to other industry segments in a later stage. è @All: please feel free to send suggestions for the name of the project.
4) Concerning the technological option, the group concluded the following (added to the roadmap document):
- Hardware/chip architecture options:
o x86 is retained as the reference chip architecture for the MVP
o The project should nevertheless consider that the platform should support ARM architecture in a second stage
- Hypervisor options:
o Linux / PREEMPT_RT is retained as the reference for the MVP
o Other options are discarded for the time being: Xenomai seems to have little industrial support, ACRN is not mature enough to date though promising (thus it should be kept in the radar for a later stage)
- Linux distribution:
o Yocto seems to be a reference choice for embedded critical systems
o CIP (https://www.cip-project.org/) is also proposed as a serious alternative? as it is maintained longer and includes a RT version
o Are Yocto and CIP exclusive options or compatible ones? è Glenn proposed to check with the LF.
- Platform and application orchestration:
o Kubernetes seems to be the reference choice for container orchestration è To be added to the roadmap (done).
5) Tests will be key to confirm the design of the solution. It is agreed to add to the project’s activities an item on “specifying the test procedures needed to assess the fulfillment of the requirements” è Done
I have updated the progress status for the design team:
We have almost completed the high level principles, initial functional scope and functional requirement references.
We have also made significant progress regarding the technological options.
It also seems to me that the milestones to reach the MVP are partly there: we have listed the project activities on slide 9 and we have 3 examples of substations to be considered. This already gives some guidance.
For next meeting, I would like to focus the discussion on items 6 and 7:
6) Make an inventory of pre-existing code that is already open source or would be contributed to the project
7) List and discuss the proposed individual contributions to the open source project
I will propose a template to collect views asap.
Please continue adding you contributions directly to the roadmap in the “Working documents for next meeting”: https://rtefrance-my.sharepoint.com/:f:/g/personal/lucian_balea_rte-france_com/EqtmXdzq_g5IjOUqnpeW_OcBSliQdsCu0vytBZ5yDSisaA
Any comment/suggestion regarding the above is welcome.
Best regards,
Lucian
-----Rendez-vous d'origine-----
De : BALEA Lucian
Envoyé : jeudi 3 mars 2005 21:17
À : BALEA Lucian; Daniel Lazaro; GUIBOUT Christian; WATARE Aurelien; Thomas Rudolph;
akhilesh.chandrakar@...; Dalvi Siddhesh; Vijaylal S V; Groningen, Laurent van; Charton, Thomas; Chen, Linwei; Jansen, Sander; Miller, Michael (GE Renewable Energy); Kanabar, Mital (GE Renewable
Energy); Moeller, Jan; Karine Mourier; Dioury, Karim; Seiler, Glenn; Troost, HJ (René);
romain.naour@...
Objet : DigiSub DT2 (virtualization) - Meeting #5
Date : lundi 16 mars 2020 16:30-18:00 (UTC+01:00) Bruxelles, Copenhague, Madrid, Paris.
Où : https://zoom.us/j/7589175891
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