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Cancelled Event: CDSC Power Systems Data WG meeting ( weekly for February 2022 ) - Thursday, February 10, 2022 #cal-cancelled

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Cancelled: CDSC Power Systems Data WG meeting ( weekly for February 2022 )

This event has been cancelled.

When:
Thursday, February 10, 2022
10:00am to 11:00am
(UTC-05:00) America/New York

Where:
https://zoom.us/j/91646524338

Description:

Weekly meeting of the CDSC Power Systems Data WG for the month of February 2022. Meeting agenda and materials to be distributed prior to this meeting.

Please confirm this meeting is valid at https://lists.lfenergy.org/g/cdsc-power-system-data-wg/calendar

Zoom Meeting https://zoom.us/j/91646524338 Meeting ID: 916 4652 4338 One tap mobile +12532158782,,91646524338# US (Tacoma) +13017158592,,91646524338# US (Washington DC) Dial by your location +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma) +1 301 715 8592 US (Washington DC) +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston) +1 646 558 8656 US (New York) +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose) 855 880 1246 US Toll-free 877 369 0926 US Toll-free +1 204 272 7920 Canada +1 438 809 7799 Canada +1 587 328 1099 Canada +1 647 374 4685 Canada +1 647 558 0588 Canada +1 778 907 2071 Canada 855 703 8985 Canada Toll-free Meeting ID: 916 4652 4338 Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/ade39N9akQ

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Re: Cancelled Event: CDSC Power Systems Data WG meeting ( weekly for February 2022 ) - Thursday, February 10, 2022 #cal-cancelled

Shuli Goodman
 

Hi all - the Maintainers - Bob Currie and Markus Mirz are working in the background to get us organized. We are canceling this weeks meeting - please remove the 10th from your calendar. I will be extending the 17th meeting to the 16th and making 90 minutes. Apologies for the shifting sands. We will get stabilized and move forward well organized!


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On Feb 7, 2022, at 9:28 AM, cdsc-power-system-data-wg@... Calendar <noreply@...> wrote:

Cancelled: CDSC Power Systems Data WG meeting ( weekly for February 2022 )

This event has been cancelled.

When:
Thursday, February 10, 2022
10:00am to 11:00am
(UTC-05:00) America/New York

Where:
https://zoom.us/j/91646524338

Description:

Weekly meeting of the CDSC Power Systems Data WG for the month of February 2022. Meeting agenda and materials to be distributed prior to this meeting.

Please confirm this meeting is valid at https://lists.lfenergy.org/g/cdsc-power-system-data-wg/calendar

Zoom Meeting https://zoom.us/j/91646524338 Meeting ID: 916 4652 4338 One tap mobile +12532158782,,91646524338# US (Tacoma) +13017158592,,91646524338# US (Washington DC) Dial by your location +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma) +1 301 715 8592 US (Washington DC) +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston) +1 646 558 8656 US (New York) +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose) 855 880 1246 US Toll-free 877 369 0926 US Toll-free +1 204 272 7920 Canada +1 438 809 7799 Canada +1 587 328 1099 Canada +1 647 374 4685 Canada +1 647 558 0588 Canada +1 778 907 2071 Canada 855 703 8985 Canada Toll-free Meeting ID: 916 4652 4338 Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/ade39N9akQ


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Event: CDSC Power Systems Data WG meeting ( weekly for February 2022 ) - Wednesday, February 16, 2022 #cal-invite

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CDSC Power Systems Data WG meeting ( weekly for February 2022 )

When:
Wednesday, February 16, 2022
10:00am to 11:30am
(UTC-05:00) America/New York

Where:
https://zoom.us/j/91646524338

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Description:

Weekly meeting of the CDSC Power Systems Data WG for the month of February 2022. Meeting agenda and materials to be distributed prior to this meeting.

Please confirm this meeting is valid at https://lists.lfenergy.org/g/cdsc-power-system-data-wg/calendar

Zoom Meeting https://zoom.us/j/91646524338 Meeting ID: 916 4652 4338 One tap mobile +12532158782,,91646524338# US (Tacoma) +13017158592,,91646524338# US (Washington DC) Dial by your location +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma) +1 301 715 8592 US (Washington DC) +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston) +1 646 558 8656 US (New York) +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose) 855 880 1246 US Toll-free 877 369 0926 US Toll-free +1 204 272 7920 Canada +1 438 809 7799 Canada +1 587 328 1099 Canada +1 647 374 4685 Canada +1 647 558 0588 Canada +1 778 907 2071 Canada 855 703 8985 Canada Toll-free Meeting ID: 916 4652 4338 Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/ade39N9akQ

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Updated Event: RESCHEDULED || CDSC Power Systems Data WG meeting ( weekly for February 2022 ) - Wednesday, February 16, 2022 #cal-invite

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RESCHEDULED || CDSC Power Systems Data WG meeting ( weekly for February 2022 )

When:
Wednesday, February 16, 2022
8:30am to 10:00am
(UTC-08:00) America/Los Angeles

Where:
https://zoom.us/j/91646524338

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Description:

This ONE TIME meeting time is being changed (again) to accommodate cross-over with Energy Tag working groups. Apologies for the confusion. Meeting of the CDSC Power Systems Data WG for the month of February 2022. Meeting agenda and materials to be distributed prior to this meeting.

Please confirm this meeting is valid at https://lists.lfenergy.org/g/cdsc-power-system-data-wg/calendar

Zoom Meeting https://zoom.us/j/91646524338 Meeting ID: 916 4652 4338 One tap mobile +12532158782,,91646524338# US (Tacoma) +13017158592,,91646524338# US (Washington DC) Dial by your location +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma) +1 301 715 8592 US (Washington DC) +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston) +1 646 558 8656 US (New York) +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose) 855 880 1246 US Toll-free 877 369 0926 US Toll-free +1 204 272 7920 Canada +1 438 809 7799 Canada +1 587 328 1099 Canada +1 647 374 4685 Canada +1 647 558 0588 Canada +1 778 907 2071 Canada 855 703 8985 Canada Toll-free Meeting ID: 916 4652 4338 Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/ade39N9akQ

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Re: CIM CGMES and ENTSOE real-time electricity data

Hallie Cramer
 

Hi Markus,

Thank you for looking into that. I'd like to propose and get the group's feedback on doing a landscape assessment as a first step in this process. Specifically, if we could create e.g. an sheets template for all working groups members to fill out which requests:
  • Power systems data metrics of interest (e.g. hourly plant level generation and emissions, hourly imports / exports, nodal prices)
  • Best examples of where that data exists today -> how, in what format (e.g. ENTSOE, EIA)
  • Challenges with the existing data today (e.g. granularity, frequency, data quality, access, non standard technology nomenclature) 
  • Example of use case (this is a "good to know", but I don't think we should index on any particular use case at this point given the Phase I scope)
We can then analyze and discuss responses, find areas of overlap / common issues and needs in order to help develop a more discrete outline of what this specification will look like and to ensure alignment on what we are working towards. Let me know what you think, and if others have feedback on this idea as well, please feel free to chime in.

Thanks,
Hallie

On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 11:25 AM Shuli Goodman <sgoodman@...> wrote:
Great research intelligence!

Thanks, Markus!


Shuli



l. shuli rose goodman phd.
executive director, LF Energy
a Linux Foundation project
twitter: @LFE_Foundation
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On Feb 3, 2022, at 11:22 AM, Mirz, Markus <markus.mirz@...> wrote:

Hello,
 
I had a look at the API that electricitymap is using to pull real-time ENTSOE data.
 
As you can see here:
The data is structured according to iec62325.351:tc57wg16.
 
IEC 62325 is based on CIM (IEC 61970) and developed by the same technical committee.
 
The CIM IEC core model describes everything that you need to run a power flow.
That means that (among many other things) it lets you define nodes and branches of the network as well as their characteristics (e.g. active and reactive power in/output and line impedance).
 
It seems to me that bringing these things together might not be that difficult after all 😊
 
Cheers
Markus
 
Re: CIM CGMES and ENTSOE real-time electricity data

McGee Young
 

Hallie,
This sounds like a great next step. I've found it useful to categorize these types of issues into "produced" and "consumed" buckets. For example, hourly plant level generation would fall into "produced". By contrast, "consumed" includes imports/exports and (potentially) transmission constraints. There might be other buckets, but maybe this is a good enough starting point.

Should this happen within a Github issue? On a shared Google sheet? Airtable? Happy to take the lead on setting something up if we agree on how/where to best brainstorm.

Thanks!
McGee

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Re: CIM CGMES and ENTSOE real-time electricity data

Mirz, Markus <markus.mirz@...>
 

Hi Hallie,

 

I think it’s a good idea to do this landscape assessment first.

 

Shuli and I discussed your proposal today and thought about a tool to make this landscape very visual and engage members in the creation.

Having a picture would also help in explaining what we are doing to potential candidates who are interested in joining this effort.

 

The miro board here could be one possibility to create the landscape:

https://miro.com/app/board/uXjVOOeqLlw=/?invite_link_id=905940576550

 

What do you think about this way of creating the landscape?

 

Thanks

Markus

 

 

From: Hallie Cramer <halliecramer@...>
Sent: Wednesday, February 9, 2022 11:37 PM
To: Shuli Goodman <sgoodman@...>
Cc: Mirz, Markus <markus.mirz@...>; cdsc-power-system-data-wg@...
Subject: Re: [CDSC Power System Data WG] CIM CGMES and ENTSOE real-time electricity data

 

Hi Markus,

 

Thank you for looking into that. I'd like to propose and get the group's feedback on doing a landscape assessment as a first step in this process. Specifically, if we could create e.g. an sheets template for all working groups members to fill out which requests:

  • Power systems data metrics of interest (e.g. hourly plant level generation and emissions, hourly imports / exports, nodal prices)
  • Best examples of where that data exists today -> how, in what format (e.g. ENTSOE, EIA)
  • Challenges with the existing data today (e.g. granularity, frequency, data quality, access, non standard technology nomenclature) 
  •  
  • Example of use case (this is a "good to know", but I don't think we should index on any particular use case at this point given the Phase I scope)

We can then analyze and discuss responses, find areas of overlap / common issues and needs in order to help develop a more discrete outline of what this specification will look like and to ensure alignment on what we are working towards. Let me know what you think, and if others have feedback on this idea as well, please feel free to chime in.

 

Thanks,

Hallie

 

On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 11:25 AM Shuli Goodman <sgoodman@...> wrote:

Great research intelligence!

 

Thanks, Markus!

 

Shuli

 

 

l. shuli rose goodman phd.

executive director, LF Energy
a Linux Foundation project

twitter: @LFE_Foundation

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On Feb 3, 2022, at 11:22 AM, Mirz, Markus <markus.mirz@...> wrote:

 

Hello,

 

I had a look at the API that electricitymap is using to pull real-time ENTSOE data.

 

As you can see here:

The data is structured according to iec62325.351:tc57wg16.

 

IEC 62325 is based on CIM (IEC 61970) and developed by the same technical committee.

 

The CIM IEC core model describes everything that you need to run a power flow.

That means that (among many other things) it lets you define nodes and branches of the network as well as their characteristics (e.g. active and reactive power in/output and line impedance).

 

It seems to me that bringing these things together might not be that difficult after all 😊

 

Cheers

Markus

 

 
Re: CIM CGMES and ENTSOE real-time electricity data

Hallie Cramer
 

Hi Markus,

I think this is interesting and a good way to visualize! My only potential concern is if there are data sources or challenges that are specific to only one or a subset of the metrics, will there be an easy way to track that linkage here? But maybe for an initial mapping, that is less important.

Best,
Hallie

On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 8:41 AM Mirz, Markus <markus.mirz@...> wrote:

Hi Hallie,

 

I think it’s a good idea to do this landscape assessment first.

 

Shuli and I discussed your proposal today and thought about a tool to make this landscape very visual and engage members in the creation.

Having a picture would also help in explaining what we are doing to potential candidates who are interested in joining this effort.

 

The miro board here could be one possibility to create the landscape:

https://miro.com/app/board/uXjVOOeqLlw=/?invite_link_id=905940576550

 

What do you think about this way of creating the landscape?

 

Thanks

Markus

 

 

From: Hallie Cramer <halliecramer@...>
Sent: Wednesday, February 9, 2022 11:37 PM
To: Shuli Goodman <sgoodman@...>
Cc: Mirz, Markus <markus.mirz@...>; cdsc-power-system-data-wg@...
Subject: Re: [CDSC Power System Data WG] CIM CGMES and ENTSOE real-time electricity data

 

Hi Markus,

 

Thank you for looking into that. I'd like to propose and get the group's feedback on doing a landscape assessment as a first step in this process. Specifically, if we could create e.g. an sheets template for all working groups members to fill out which requests:

  • Power systems data metrics of interest (e.g. hourly plant level generation and emissions, hourly imports / exports, nodal prices)
  • Best examples of where that data exists today -> how, in what format (e.g. ENTSOE, EIA)
  • Challenges with the existing data today (e.g. granularity, frequency, data quality, access, non standard technology nomenclature) 
  •  
  • Example of use case (this is a "good to know", but I don't think we should index on any particular use case at this point given the Phase I scope)

We can then analyze and discuss responses, find areas of overlap / common issues and needs in order to help develop a more discrete outline of what this specification will look like and to ensure alignment on what we are working towards. Let me know what you think, and if others have feedback on this idea as well, please feel free to chime in.

 

Thanks,

Hallie

 

On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 11:25 AM Shuli Goodman <sgoodman@...> wrote:

Great research intelligence!

 

Thanks, Markus!

 

Shuli

 

 

l. shuli rose goodman phd.

executive director, LF Energy
a Linux Foundation project

twitter: @LFE_Foundation

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 





On Feb 3, 2022, at 11:22 AM, Mirz, Markus <markus.mirz@...> wrote:

 

Hello,

 

I had a look at the API that electricitymap is using to pull real-time ENTSOE data.

 

As you can see here:

The data is structured according to iec62325.351:tc57wg16.

 

IEC 62325 is based on CIM (IEC 61970) and developed by the same technical committee.

 

The CIM IEC core model describes everything that you need to run a power flow.

That means that (among many other things) it lets you define nodes and branches of the network as well as their characteristics (e.g. active and reactive power in/output and line impedance).

 

It seems to me that bringing these things together might not be that difficult after all 😊

 

Cheers

Markus

 

 
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RESCHEDULED || CDSC Power Systems Data WG meeting ( weekly for February 2022 )

When:
Wednesday, February 16, 2022, 8:30am to 10:00am
(GMT-08:00) America/Los Angeles

Where:
https://zoom.us/j/91646524338

Details:

This ONE TIME meeting time is being changed (again) to accommodate cross-over with Energy Tag working groups. Apologies for the confusion. Meeting of the CDSC Power Systems Data WG for the month of February 2022. Meeting agenda and materials to be distributed prior to this meeting.

Please confirm this meeting is valid at https://lists.lfenergy.org/g/cdsc-power-system-data-wg/calendar

Zoom Meeting https://zoom.us/j/91646524338 Meeting ID: 916 4652 4338 One tap mobile +12532158782,,91646524338# US (Tacoma) +13017158592,,91646524338# US (Washington DC) Dial by your location +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma) +1 301 715 8592 US (Washington DC) +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston) +1 646 558 8656 US (New York) +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose) 855 880 1246 US Toll-free 877 369 0926 US Toll-free +1 204 272 7920 Canada +1 438 809 7799 Canada +1 587 328 1099 Canada +1 647 374 4685 Canada +1 647 558 0588 Canada +1 778 907 2071 Canada 855 703 8985 Canada Toll-free Meeting ID: 916 4652 4338 Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/ade39N9akQ

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Re: CIM CGMES and ENTSOE real-time electricity data

Mirz, Markus <markus.mirz@...>
 

Hi Hallie,

 

Yes, I think that you can track these links as well if the number of tags is not too large, but of course this visual representation does not scale well.

It might be good in the beginning to discuss and set our direction.

At some point we will need to switch to something different, e.g. table based, as you suggested.

 

On Wednesday, we have our next power system data WG meeting. My proposal would be to invite all members to contribute to this mind map…

After a first round of populating the map, we have an initial version of the landscape and can decide the next step.

This map could also help in identifying the columns that we require in the table sheet eventually.

 

Do you think this is a good way forward?

 

Cheers

Markus

 

 

From: Hallie Cramer <halliecramer@...>
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2022 11:24 PM
To: Mirz, Markus <markus.mirz@...>
Cc: Shuli Goodman <sgoodman@...>; cdsc-power-system-data-wg@...
Subject: Re: [CDSC Power System Data WG] CIM CGMES and ENTSOE real-time electricity data

 

Hi Markus,

 

I think this is interesting and a good way to visualize! My only potential concern is if there are data sources or challenges that are specific to only one or a subset of the metrics, will there be an easy way to track that linkage here? But maybe for an initial mapping, that is less important.

 

Best,

Hallie

 

On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 8:41 AM Mirz, Markus <markus.mirz@...> wrote:

Hi Hallie,

 

I think it’s a good idea to do this landscape assessment first.

 

Shuli and I discussed your proposal today and thought about a tool to make this landscape very visual and engage members in the creation.

Having a picture would also help in explaining what we are doing to potential candidates who are interested in joining this effort.

 

The miro board here could be one possibility to create the landscape:

https://miro.com/app/board/uXjVOOeqLlw=/?invite_link_id=905940576550

 

What do you think about this way of creating the landscape?

 

Thanks

Markus

 

 

From: Hallie Cramer <halliecramer@...>
Sent: Wednesday, February 9, 2022 11:37 PM
To: Shuli Goodman <sgoodman@...>
Cc: Mirz, Markus <markus.mirz@...>; cdsc-power-system-data-wg@...
Subject: Re: [CDSC Power System Data WG] CIM CGMES and ENTSOE real-time electricity data

 

Hi Markus,

 

Thank you for looking into that. I'd like to propose and get the group's feedback on doing a landscape assessment as a first step in this process. Specifically, if we could create e.g. an sheets template for all working groups members to fill out which requests:

  • Power systems data metrics of interest (e.g. hourly plant level generation and emissions, hourly imports / exports, nodal prices)
  • Best examples of where that data exists today -> how, in what format (e.g. ENTSOE, EIA)
  • Challenges with the existing data today (e.g. granularity, frequency, data quality, access, non standard technology nomenclature) 
  •  
  • Example of use case (this is a "good to know", but I don't think we should index on any particular use case at this point given the Phase I scope)

We can then analyze and discuss responses, find areas of overlap / common issues and needs in order to help develop a more discrete outline of what this specification will look like and to ensure alignment on what we are working towards. Let me know what you think, and if others have feedback on this idea as well, please feel free to chime in.

 

Thanks,

Hallie

 

On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 11:25 AM Shuli Goodman <sgoodman@...> wrote:

Great research intelligence!

 

Thanks, Markus!

 

Shuli

 

 

l. shuli rose goodman phd.

executive director, LF Energy
a Linux Foundation project

twitter: @LFE_Foundation

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Feb 3, 2022, at 11:22 AM, Mirz, Markus <markus.mirz@...> wrote:

 

Hello,

 

I had a look at the API that electricitymap is using to pull real-time ENTSOE data.

 

As you can see here:

The data is structured according to iec62325.351:tc57wg16.

 

IEC 62325 is based on CIM (IEC 61970) and developed by the same technical committee.

 

The CIM IEC core model describes everything that you need to run a power flow.

That means that (among many other things) it lets you define nodes and branches of the network as well as their characteristics (e.g. active and reactive power in/output and line impedance).

 

It seems to me that bringing these things together might not be that difficult after all 😊

 

Cheers

Markus

 

 
Re: CIM CGMES and ENTSOE real-time electricity data

Hallie Cramer
 

Hi Markus,

That sounds good to me!

Thanks,
Hallie

On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 1:26 AM Mirz, Markus <markus.mirz@...> wrote:

Hi Hallie,

 

Yes, I think that you can track these links as well if the number of tags is not too large, but of course this visual representation does not scale well.

It might be good in the beginning to discuss and set our direction.

At some point we will need to switch to something different, e.g. table based, as you suggested.

 

On Wednesday, we have our next power system data WG meeting. My proposal would be to invite all members to contribute to this mind map…

After a first round of populating the map, we have an initial version of the landscape and can decide the next step.

This map could also help in identifying the columns that we require in the table sheet eventually.

 

Do you think this is a good way forward?

 

Cheers

Markus

 

 

From: Hallie Cramer <halliecramer@...>
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2022 11:24 PM
To: Mirz, Markus <markus.mirz@...>
Cc: Shuli Goodman <sgoodman@...>; cdsc-power-system-data-wg@...
Subject: Re: [CDSC Power System Data WG] CIM CGMES and ENTSOE real-time electricity data

 

Hi Markus,

 

I think this is interesting and a good way to visualize! My only potential concern is if there are data sources or challenges that are specific to only one or a subset of the metrics, will there be an easy way to track that linkage here? But maybe for an initial mapping, that is less important.

 

Best,

Hallie

 

On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 8:41 AM Mirz, Markus <markus.mirz@...> wrote:

Hi Hallie,

 

I think it’s a good idea to do this landscape assessment first.

 

Shuli and I discussed your proposal today and thought about a tool to make this landscape very visual and engage members in the creation.

Having a picture would also help in explaining what we are doing to potential candidates who are interested in joining this effort.

 

The miro board here could be one possibility to create the landscape:

https://miro.com/app/board/uXjVOOeqLlw=/?invite_link_id=905940576550

 

What do you think about this way of creating the landscape?

 

Thanks

Markus

 

 

From: Hallie Cramer <halliecramer@...>
Sent: Wednesday, February 9, 2022 11:37 PM
To: Shuli Goodman <sgoodman@...>
Cc: Mirz, Markus <markus.mirz@...>; cdsc-power-system-data-wg@...
Subject: Re: [CDSC Power System Data WG] CIM CGMES and ENTSOE real-time electricity data

 

Hi Markus,

 

Thank you for looking into that. I'd like to propose and get the group's feedback on doing a landscape assessment as a first step in this process. Specifically, if we could create e.g. an sheets template for all working groups members to fill out which requests:

  • Power systems data metrics of interest (e.g. hourly plant level generation and emissions, hourly imports / exports, nodal prices)
  • Best examples of where that data exists today -> how, in what format (e.g. ENTSOE, EIA)
  • Challenges with the existing data today (e.g. granularity, frequency, data quality, access, non standard technology nomenclature) 
  •  
  • Example of use case (this is a "good to know", but I don't think we should index on any particular use case at this point given the Phase I scope)

We can then analyze and discuss responses, find areas of overlap / common issues and needs in order to help develop a more discrete outline of what this specification will look like and to ensure alignment on what we are working towards. Let me know what you think, and if others have feedback on this idea as well, please feel free to chime in.

 

Thanks,

Hallie

 

On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 11:25 AM Shuli Goodman <sgoodman@...> wrote:

Great research intelligence!

 

Thanks, Markus!

 

Shuli

 

 

l. shuli rose goodman phd.

executive director, LF Energy
a Linux Foundation project

twitter: @LFE_Foundation

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Feb 3, 2022, at 11:22 AM, Mirz, Markus <markus.mirz@...> wrote:

 

Hello,

 

I had a look at the API that electricitymap is using to pull real-time ENTSOE data.

 

As you can see here:

The data is structured according to iec62325.351:tc57wg16.

 

IEC 62325 is based on CIM (IEC 61970) and developed by the same technical committee.

 

The CIM IEC core model describes everything that you need to run a power flow.

That means that (among many other things) it lets you define nodes and branches of the network as well as their characteristics (e.g. active and reactive power in/output and line impedance).

 

It seems to me that bringing these things together might not be that difficult after all 😊

 

Cheers

Markus

 

 
Event: RESCHEDULED || CDSC Power Systems Data WG meeting ( weekly for February 2022 ) - 02/16/2022 #cal-reminder

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Reminder: RESCHEDULED || CDSC Power Systems Data WG meeting ( weekly for February 2022 )

When:
02/16/2022
8:30am to 10:00am
(UTC-08:00) America/Los Angeles

Where:
https://zoom.us/j/91646524338

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This ONE TIME meeting time is being changed (again) to accommodate cross-over with Energy Tag working groups. Apologies for the confusion. Meeting of the CDSC Power Systems Data WG for the month of February 2022. Meeting agenda and materials to be distributed prior to this meeting.

Please confirm this meeting is valid at https://lists.lfenergy.org/g/cdsc-power-system-data-wg/calendar

Zoom Meeting https://zoom.us/j/91646524338 Meeting ID: 916 4652 4338 One tap mobile +12532158782,,91646524338# US (Tacoma) +13017158592,,91646524338# US (Washington DC) Dial by your location +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma) +1 301 715 8592 US (Washington DC) +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston) +1 646 558 8656 US (New York) +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose) 855 880 1246 US Toll-free 877 369 0926 US Toll-free +1 204 272 7920 Canada +1 438 809 7799 Canada +1 587 328 1099 Canada +1 647 374 4685 Canada +1 647 558 0588 Canada +1 778 907 2071 Canada 855 703 8985 Canada Toll-free Meeting ID: 916 4652 4338 Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/ade39N9akQ

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Event: RESCHEDULED || CDSC Power Systems Data WG meeting ( weekly for February 2022 ) - 02/16/2022 #cal-reminder

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Reminder: RESCHEDULED || CDSC Power Systems Data WG meeting ( weekly for February 2022 )

When:
02/16/2022
8:30am to 10:00am
(UTC-08:00) America/Los Angeles

Where:
https://zoom.us/j/91646524338

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Description:

This ONE TIME meeting time is being changed (again) to accommodate cross-over with Energy Tag working groups. Apologies for the confusion. Meeting of the CDSC Power Systems Data WG for the month of February 2022. Meeting agenda and materials to be distributed prior to this meeting.

Please confirm this meeting is valid at https://lists.lfenergy.org/g/cdsc-power-system-data-wg/calendar

Zoom Meeting https://zoom.us/j/91646524338 Meeting ID: 916 4652 4338 One tap mobile +12532158782,,91646524338# US (Tacoma) +13017158592,,91646524338# US (Washington DC) Dial by your location +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma) +1 301 715 8592 US (Washington DC) +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston) +1 646 558 8656 US (New York) +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose) 855 880 1246 US Toll-free 877 369 0926 US Toll-free +1 204 272 7920 Canada +1 438 809 7799 Canada +1 587 328 1099 Canada +1 647 374 4685 Canada +1 647 558 0588 Canada +1 778 907 2071 Canada 855 703 8985 Canada Toll-free Meeting ID: 916 4652 4338 Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/ade39N9akQ

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Event: RESCHEDULED || CDSC Power Systems Data WG meeting ( weekly for February 2022 ) - 02/16/2022 #cal-reminder

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Reminder: RESCHEDULED || CDSC Power Systems Data WG meeting ( weekly for February 2022 )

When:
02/16/2022
8:30am to 10:00am
(UTC-08:00) America/Los Angeles

Where:
https://zoom.us/j/91646524338

View Event

Description:

This ONE TIME meeting time is being changed (again) to accommodate cross-over with Energy Tag working groups. Apologies for the confusion. Meeting of the CDSC Power Systems Data WG for the month of February 2022. Meeting agenda and materials to be distributed prior to this meeting.

Please confirm this meeting is valid at https://lists.lfenergy.org/g/cdsc-power-system-data-wg/calendar

Zoom Meeting https://zoom.us/j/91646524338 Meeting ID: 916 4652 4338 One tap mobile +12532158782,,91646524338# US (Tacoma) +13017158592,,91646524338# US (Washington DC) Dial by your location +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma) +1 301 715 8592 US (Washington DC) +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston) +1 646 558 8656 US (New York) +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose) 855 880 1246 US Toll-free 877 369 0926 US Toll-free +1 204 272 7920 Canada +1 438 809 7799 Canada +1 587 328 1099 Canada +1 647 374 4685 Canada +1 647 558 0588 Canada +1 778 907 2071 Canada 855 703 8985 Canada Toll-free Meeting ID: 916 4652 4338 Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/ade39N9akQ

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Now: RESCHEDULED || CDSC Power Systems Data WG meeting ( weekly for February 2022 ) - 02/16/2022 #cal-notice

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RESCHEDULED || CDSC Power Systems Data WG meeting ( weekly for February 2022 )

When:
02/16/2022
8:30am to 10:00am
(UTC-08:00) America/Los Angeles

Where:
https://zoom.us/j/91646524338

View Event

Description:

This ONE TIME meeting time is being changed (again) to accommodate cross-over with Energy Tag working groups. Apologies for the confusion. Meeting of the CDSC Power Systems Data WG for the month of February 2022. Meeting agenda and materials to be distributed prior to this meeting.

Please confirm this meeting is valid at https://lists.lfenergy.org/g/cdsc-power-system-data-wg/calendar

Zoom Meeting https://zoom.us/j/91646524338 Meeting ID: 916 4652 4338 One tap mobile +12532158782,,91646524338# US (Tacoma) +13017158592,,91646524338# US (Washington DC) Dial by your location +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma) +1 301 715 8592 US (Washington DC) +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston) +1 646 558 8656 US (New York) +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose) 855 880 1246 US Toll-free 877 369 0926 US Toll-free +1 204 272 7920 Canada +1 438 809 7799 Canada +1 587 328 1099 Canada +1 647 374 4685 Canada +1 647 558 0588 Canada +1 778 907 2071 Canada 855 703 8985 Canada Toll-free Meeting ID: 916 4652 4338 Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/ade39N9akQ
Event: WG2 - Power Systems Data Standing Meeting #cal-invite

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WG2 - Power Systems Data Standing Meeting

When:
Thursday, March 3, 2022
7:00am to 8:00am
(UTC-08:00) America/Los Angeles
Repeats: Every 2 weeks on Thursday, 10 times

Where:
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Organizer: Shuli sgoodman@... 4157229688

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Old meeting invite and recording from yesterday's WG2 meeting

Shuli Goodman
 

Hi all - we had some old meetings and a few of you logged in today for a WG2 Kick-Off. We rescheduled with a note and that meeting happened yesterday. I have put a new recurring meeting every other Thursday starting March 3rd. You should have received an invite. Attaching again for convenience. Please make sure you are subscribed to the calendars for the meetings you want to attend.

This is the recording and transcript from yesterday. Henry, Hallie, Markus, McGee, Karl, Seth and myself were on the call (apologies if I missed someone!). Our next meeting is a full CDSC-TSC on Weds the 23rd, attaching for convenience. It will immediately follow the LF Energy first 2022 Member Meetup. Please register here for the Meetup (non-members welcome).

Thanks!




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Upcoming Events #cal-summary

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CDSC Power System Data WG Upcoming Events

WG2 - Power Systems Data Standing Meeting

When:
Thursday, March 3, 2022, 7:00am to 8:00am
(GMT-08:00) America/Los Angeles

Where:
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Organizer: Shuli sgoodman@...

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WG2 - Power Systems Data Standing Meeting

When:
Thursday, March 3, 2022, 7:00am to 8:00am
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Where:
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WG2 - Power Systems Data Standing Meeting

When:
Thursday, March 17, 2022, 7:00am to 8:00am
(GMT-07:00) America/Los Angeles

Where:
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WG2 - Power Systems Data Standing Meeting

When:
Thursday, March 17, 2022, 7:00am to 8:00am
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Where:
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WG2 - Power Systems Data Standing Meeting

When:
Thursday, March 31, 2022, 7:00am to 8:00am
(GMT-07:00) America/Los Angeles

Where:
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Clarifying the output of the CDSC power system data working group

guillaume.picard@...
 

Hi everyone,

Apologies for missing the meeting on Wednesday, I had a family emergency I had to take care of.
I have seen some discussions floating around this, but I wanted to get your view on what the output of this working group will be and what the specification would include.

To be more specific, what does the specification mean? And what would be the scope?

For example:
  • Are we specifying exactly what data fields should be included?
  • Are we specifying how these data should be measured or computed?
  • Are we specifying how the data should be collected?
  • Are we specifying the units e.g. MW and the format eg DD-MM-YYYY XX:XX:XX+XX:XX of data columns?
  • Are we specifying all aspects of what the model entails e.g. metadata, data model using UML...?
  • Are we specifying how the data should be ingested and used?
  • ... etc.
Of course, I am not looking for an exact definition of the scope as this is the work we will be doing. I am curious to know your thoughts on the extent of this specification.

Guillaume
Re: Old meeting invite and recording from yesterday's WG2 meeting

molly@...
 

Dear all

If there is a Miro board link please could you send it?

Best
Molly
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