December 2 DAWG meeting | TODO fill out Doodle


Shuli Goodman
 

Hi everyone - that was a great meeting. Here is the recording and transcript.

First of all - Mandy thank you! What an excellent and exciting project. You are a hero (honestly), moving the world forward with Egeria. I know everyone was impressed.
@Mandy can you send a link to the deck for people to download?

I think the next steps for us as a community are to discuss how best to move froward. The general idea would be to stand up an energy specific, power systems reference implementation. Hans, I could tell you were jumping up and down. 

I don't have a lot of time before the end of the year, but to gauge interest and keep the momentum going, I am going to put out a few times in the next two weeks. 

Here is the Doodle. Please fill out ASAP!


Thanks!
Shuli



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Robbie Morrison
 

Hi all

Can I flag four issues that might be usefully covered regarding Egeria.

These comments are limited to non‑personal data that could be or has been legitimately published.  That then removes GDPR and trade secrets considerations, for instance.

1  Legal metadata and public information

Metadata handling could and perhaps should support:

For some background, the UK Ofgem regulator covers both the Dublin Core and open licensing in their summary of recent public consultation:

Indeed, there is a very considerable overlap in subject matter between the regulatory work by Ofgem and the objectives set by Egeria (as I understand them). I encourage people study Ofgem's views when developing energy sector metadata processing requirements — particularly if some public facing aspect is desired (not that I have seen that provision yet articulated in LFE materials). That more preliminary work from Ofgem is to be backed up with more concrete decisions in 2022. And those pronouncements will involve some mix of guidance, mandate, and quite possibly legislative alignment.

The newly proposed EU Data Act is similar in some regards and needs to be watched also.  That draft legislation covers business‑to‑government (B2G) data sharing (such flows have yet to appear on LFE materials too).

In passing, the Icebreaker One Open Energy data platform supports both trusted brokerage (under the "terms and conditions" that Mandy mentioned) and open data dissemination (as per the aforementioned work by Ofgem). The IB1 platform is subject to English law.  And legal metadata is at the very core of their design.

2  The legal instruments that apply to the underpinning standards

I will also follow this question up with an open source legal network that I participate in and report back. Open standards are not open software and different legal considerations may apply, particularly if there ceases to be a maintained reference implementation.

3  Data semantics

  • metadata needs be formulated using a common semantic base to be translatable (unless someone manages to stumble upon Douglas Adam's fabled Babel Fish)
  • to what degree are data semantics intended to be part of the Egeria standards — or are data semantics and metadata translation regarded as solely third‑party matters?

Either way, LFE will have to grasp that nettle.

4  Interactions with overlapping projects

Some potential overlaps (albeit highly incomplete):

  • DBpedia Databus (with support for legal metadata)
  • Icebreaker One Open Energy data platform (mentioned earlier)
  • EnerMaps (more shortly)
  • work within the Open Energy Modelling Initiative

These interactions are particularly important if Egeria ultimately wants to succeed as a standard and fail as a project (as Mandy indicated wistfully in her 20211202 webinar).

Stepping back, this general journey is, in my view, as much about rapid decarbonization as it is about digitalization — indeed, the two cannot be sensibly separated. My guess is also that European utilities tend to embrace net‑zero 2050 more than do United States utilities. For instance, the recent ENTSO‑E conference was dedicated to that exact theme:

I mention just one project that perhaps overlaps with Egeria in terms of large‑scale energy data and metadata handling in the LFE context in a little more detail (simply because I attended a recent seminar): the EnerMaps (was HoTMAPS) project:

Moreover, if LF Energy overlooks the decarbonization agenda (by including and implicitly promoting the OSDU subsurface data project by Shell Oil, Schlumberger, and others, for instance), then the LFE project is less likely to succeed. I say that in a constructive way, I hope. And as an observation, public interest energy planning on all levels is probably much more established in Europe than the United States (as I under public processes in that jurisdiction) and those differences need to be recognized. And more generally, in Europe and the UK, suitably‑licensed public interest information flows are attracting increasing attention from very many quarters (as covered earlier). The United States is much better placed in regard to public sector information and published data more generally, of course.

@Shuli: I worked hard to make this posting succinct, structured, and relatively neutral in terms of framing, but also supported with suitable arguments, information, and sources.

with best wishes, Robbie

Copyright (c) 2021 Robbie Morrison <robbie.morrison@...> • This posting is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International (CC‑BY‑4.0) License. • Please reuse.


On 04/12/2021 00.53, Shuli Goodman wrote:
Hi everyone - that was a great meeting. Here is the recording and transcript.

First of all - Mandy thank you! What an excellent and exciting project. You are a hero (honestly), moving the world forward with Egeria. I know everyone was impressed.
@Mandy can you send a link to the deck for people to download?

I think the next steps for us as a community are to discuss how best to move froward. The general idea would be to stand up an energy specific, power systems reference implementation. Hans, I could tell you were jumping up and down. 

I don't have a lot of time before the end of the year, but to gauge interest and keep the momentum going, I am going to put out a few times in the next two weeks. 

Here is the Doodle. Please fill out ASAP!


Thanks!
Shuli


l. shuli rose goodman phd.
executive director, LF Energy
a Linux Foundation project
twitter: @LFE_Foundation
linkedin.com/in/shuligoodman
c: +1.415.722.9688
v: +1.707.874.3231
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